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captions paid for by nbc-universal television good morning, everyone. i'm lester holt. >> and i'm jenna wolfe. >> the news broke just a short time ago. the libyan intelligence agent convicted of bombing pan am flight 103 over skokland is dead after a long battle with cancer. he was released in 2009 under humanitarian reasons and it outraged people.
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then we're going to go to chicago where president obama will host dozens of people today. thousands of protesters are planning to march to where the summit is taking place. we're going to have a live report from chicago. >> did you happen to watch the preakness yesterday? >> if i didn't watch it, it was incredible. >> a replay of the derby. >> absolutely. it was bodie meister in the lead, it was i'll have another, which is going to set up a fantastic belmont stakes on june 9th here on nbc. it was an unbelievable finish and an unbelievable call at the end of this race, which is exciting. >> then we're going to switch gears and have an interview with dawg, the bounty hunter. >> yes. recently, ooet he's received threatening e-mails threatening him and his family.
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>> 270 people were killed in that 1988 tragedy and many say the man responsible for their deaths never received a fair punishment. >> born in libya and schooled in the u.s. and brit bran yb he was known tort world as the prep rater of the bombing of pan am flight 92. the jet exploded over lockerbie, london. from the opening moments of his trial, he called the trial and his conviction a miscarriage of justice.
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but he was a service of libyan agents. >> extreme satisfaction that this gentleman has finally died. he is responsible for the massacre of 259 people. >> but nagging questions about the reliability of key witnesses and forensic results led first to a daily for his appeal and then to his release on compassionate grounds from a scottish count after doctors said he was terminally ill and would die in three months from his cancer. washington was skeptical from the claim. >> i think all of us here in the united states were surprised, disappointed and angry about the release.
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>> back in tripoli, he said i have never harmed anyone in my life. the truth is still hidden. >> some counterterrorism experts admit there were flaws in his trial. >> with his death, the change of the regime in libya, i think is -- although not a fully satisfying one -- the end of the story of terrorism in libyan terrorism. >> but others think the libyan was only a scapegoat. >> with his demise, there is no clearer account of what happened. >> but not the questions. nbc news, london. now we're going to switch gears and talk about the weather and tropical storm alberto churning off the coast of south carolina.
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chris is upstairs with the latest. >> good morning, jenna. tropical storm alberto is the first storm of the season. in fact, it's just about two weeks early at the beginning of hurricane season. cannot read too much into that as the predictor or the rest of the season, but it just takes once for it to be a bad season. one could be a bad season. so we keep an eye on all of these storms. from charleston to savannah, the storm itself is offshore here. and it's bringing heavy rain and tropical storm watch in effect for a good portion of the south carolina from the south santee river down to the savannah river. meanwhile, this is a look at the forecast. it's going to hang around the south carolina coast for a while and eventually push out to sea by the middle of the week. lester. >> chris warren, thanks very much. now to the nato summit. president obama hosting world leaders in his hometown of chicago today, but it could be overshadowed by mass protests
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and three men under arrest on what authorities there are calling terror charges. nbc's chief white house correspondent chuck todd is there. chuck, what can you tell us about those arrests? >> reporter: well, good morning, lester. let me tell you about the three gentlemen arrested, brian church, jared chase and brent betterly. they were -- these arrests were announced by the cook county prosecutor's office and by chicago police. and they had infiltrated this group. they are anarchists, members of the occupy wall street movement. and chicago police had infiltrated this group in early may, during the may day protests that took place in quite a few cities. and this is where they discovered their plans to try to disrupt nato. they had supposedly, according to prosecutors, had plans to target the president's re-election headquarters here in chicago, mayor rahm emanuel's office and home, that they were going to do that and try to disrupt it. and they're being charged for the first time ever in the history of the state of illinois, their antiterrorism law.
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defense attorneys for these three say these are trumped up, that it was entrapment. one other note, lester -- federal authorities weren't brought in on these arrests nor on the prosecution. this was all announced by local authorities. the fbi, u.s. attorney's office not involved in this process. >> so, chuck, tell us what's on the agenda at the nato summit. >> reporter: well, nato is all about afghanistan. this is all about putting down pen to paper on the withdrawal plan of nato, which, of course, is mostly u.s. combat troops, by the end of 2014. but it's also a fund-raising meeting of sorts, where the united states is going to be asking other countries, other member nations of nato to help contribute to the cost of securing afghanistan after 2014. it's going to cost upwards of $4 billion a year. and of course, u.s. officials don't want all of that to come out of u.s. taxpayer dollars. >> all right, chuck todd, thanks very much. let's bring in david gregory, moderator of "meet the press." good morning, good to see you. >> good morning, lester.
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>> these supports, the g-8 and nato conference, it's all about the president trying to get world leaders on the same page, in the first case about the euro debt crisis, the second case of nato on afghanistan. how important is it for the president, and has he found consensus on any of these issues? >> well, it's still very difficult going, i think, as you deal with europe in particular. and the fact that the same debate they're having there is what we're going to have in the united states, which is how do you make the economy grow better? do you slash the budget in order to get growth or not? and a lot of people think that all these austerity measures in europe simply have not worked well enough, and that's the debate that we're going to be having here in the fall, particularly as, yes, get ready for it again, another debt ceiling debate about raising that debt ceiling toward the end of the year. >> and then with regard to afghanistan, we know americans are getting weary of the war in afghanistan, some of the allies as well, france in particular. is this a difficult march the president has right now to try to get funds for continuing to fight the war?
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>> well, not just funds, but any sort of sustained commitment to afghanistan. the united states is getting out. the war is coming to an end, but there's going to have to be some presence led by the united states there. the question fundamentally becomes who else within nato is willing to shoulder that burden? france has made it clear that it wants out. other countries do not want a sustained commitment there. and that's the real burden that the united states faces, which is will anybody help shoulder this going forward in terms of some of the nation-building efforts that will still be necessary even after the troops come out. >> and the u.s. needs vital supply routes through pakistan. that's been a source of negotiations. pakistan and the u.s. pretty far apart. the pakistani president is attending this nato conference as a late invitee. do you think they can work out their disagreement on this at this meeting? >> well, it's going to be difficult. i think this is a longer path, because the relationship between the united states and pakistan, particularly over all things
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that have to do with the future of both the conflict in afghanistan, whatever the government looks like is going to be a long process, particularly because of what the united states has been doing with drone attacks and other targets, targeting of al qaeda in pakistan. >> all right. tell us what's coming up on "meet the press," david. >> well, we want to pick up on this debate about growth versus austerity, because as i say, it's going to become a big part of the u.s. economy and the u.s. fight in the fall in this campaign. so we're going to have a debate between house budget chairman paul ryan and senator dick durbin of illinois about the tough decisions that washington has to make, whether they will make them being a separate decision. >> we'll see you a bit later this morning. david, thanks. >> thanks, lester. >> here's jenna. >> lester, thank you. he's gone from opening bells to wedding bells. in a silicon valley surprise -- to us, not him -- facebook ceo mark zuckerberg got married on saturday, just days after his company went public. kind of a good week for him. nbc's veronica de la cruz has more. veronica, good morning. >> hey, good morning to you, jenna. the wedding was a surprise to zuckerberg's millions of followers and even to the guests invited to the young billionaire's home.
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the photo was posted on his own facebook page just after 6:00 p.m. pacific time saturday. mark zuckerberg's relationship status had changed, and now he was married to his longtime girlfriend, priscilla chan. it was a simple ceremony in the backyard of zuckerberg's palo alto home, and also a surprise. the 100 or so invited guests thought they were going to a party celebrating chan's graduation from medical school. >> it's definitely outside the box, which seems actually pretty characteristic, so that's good, you know? that's silicon valley. >> reporter: within hours of his marriage announcement, more than 400,000 friends "liked" the news. "congrats, zuck, big day, big week!" one wrote. a big week indeed for a guy who just turned 28 last monday and became a $20 billion man by taking the social network he invented nine years ago in his dorm room public in one of the most anticipated and biggest ipos ever. zuckerberg, who met chan when they were both students at harvard, had always said
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facebook would be the way people would connect in the digital age. this week, with nearly 1 billion users, he said the same thing. >> i think it ends up being a very clear picture of the importance of what happens in a person's life. >> now, according to guests at the wedding, the menu included dishes from one of the couple's favorite local sushi restaurants and chocolates like they ate on their first date. as for the ring, word is zuckerberg designed it himself and it featured a very simple design. so he's worth billions, and on top of it all, he married a doctor. >> i wonder if "very simple ruby" is code for a very expensive, billion-dollar ring. that i love and can't get from anywhere. veronica de la cruz, thank you very much. we'll see you in a bit. now more of this morning's headlines from the news desk. good morning to you and good morning, everyone. a huge cleanup begins today across northern italy. a 6.0 magnitude quake hit early
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this morning waking them up in their sleep sending them into the streets in a panic. several are believed to be injured. the quake, one of the strongest to hit the region, also toppled numerous buildings, including some churches and historic sites. people gathered today to celebrate the life of mary kennedy. the mourners at her funeral included many celebrity peps among those attending the service were glenn close and chevy chase. mary kennedy was buried in hyanis port, massachusetts. blind chinese activist chen guangcheng is spending his first full day in new york city. chen arrived here after house arrest in china. an arrangement between china and the u.s. state department will allow him to study law at new york university. even as he embraced his new surroundings, chen resumed his activism for doing his call to
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fight justice. some scary moments in south florida saturday when a small airplane made an emergency landing on a busy city street. the four-seater plane was headed to the local airport when the pilot reported trouble with the engine. luckily, he managed to miss the heavy traffic on the street below. no one was hurt. i'll have another is on his way to belmont park with the chance to become the first triple crown winner since affirmed in 1978. the amazing thoroughbred captured the preakness saturday the same way he won the kentucky derby two weeks before. i'll have another beat bodemeister down the stretch and he won by a neck. >> bodemeister's in front! i'll have another is bearing down on him! it's bodemeister and i'll have another in a dramatic finish! can i'll have another get there? here he comes, at the wire. i'll have another did it! he ran down bodemeister to win the preakness and the triple crown will be on the line at belmont park! >> the belmont stakes is in three weeks and it will be
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broadcast here on nbc, a race we'll thoroughly enjoy. >> especially if the triple crown is up for grabs. >> how about that call? >> one of the best calls you will hear. and he gets so into that race. he did such a great job with that and the derby, as well. weather channel's chris warren is back with a check of the national forecast. >> good morning to both of you. we are watching tropical storm alberto off the south carolina coast. also watching a line of storms potentially developing from texas all the way up into the great lakes with a cold front that will be punching through the heartland. a slight riske for some strorms, that does include chicago. so the beautiful weather you've been dealing with this chicago, you'll have to take a bit of a break before it turns nice once again. still, a beautiful d and here is a look at the temperatures to plan your day by. for the morning, we'll see 50s and 60s through 8:00.
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watch what happens by lunchtime. warming up quickly from san jose to the tri-valley, already in the 80s. should see upper 80s in pleasanton, livermore, fairfield, concord, areas south of san jose. the sea breeze will pick up later today which brings in a big drop in temperatures. tomorrow, morning drizzle into tuesday, windy conditions and cooler temperatures mid week. >> that's your weather. now here's jenna. >> all right, chris, thank you very much. still ahead on "today" celebrity abrentis clay dden a d arsenio hall will battle it out tonight. it's time to live wider awake. only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool memory foam layered on top of beautyrest pocketed coils to promote proper sleeping posture all night long. the revolutionary recharge sleep system... from beautyrest.
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married. >> actually, look at the wedding picture. he was wearing a tie and a jacket, not a hoodie. >> i think that officially explains who wears the pants in that family. >> if you want to go to wall street, wear your jeans and hoodie, fine. but in the wedding -- but there's no nknot there, if you noticed. >> clearly, the day you come in in the sweatshirt and the hoodie, i'll know you've cooled down. >> you can do anything once on television and that will probably be the end of it. still to come on a sunday edition of "today" an interview with dogg, the bountdy hunter and his wife. the reality show stars say they've been the subject of horrific threats. no! who's gonna help cover the holes in their plans? aflac! quack! like medical bills they don't pay for?
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good morning. look at this start to the day in san francisco. a very good day for the important and all famous breakers race starting in a half hour. thanks for joining us. i'm chris welsh with rob mayeda. we have the forecast for the bay area. >> looks nice. you have sunshine, hopefully clear skies hold on. 40s and 50s now. not much sea breeze now. later this afternoon, that will likely start to change. the satellite and radar view shows high clouds sweeping into eureka, out towards redding which may be an issue later on.
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we have the solar eclipse later this evening. for the bay area, this is probably the most important map if you want to watch it. we will see low clouds reapproach the coast going through the rest of the evening into tonight. then we'll see more low clouds pushing inland. viewing should be pretty good for most of the bay area today. another warm day inland with some upper 80s towards places like livermore, pleasanton. cooling down in the afternoon for the coast as the sea breeze turns stronger and cooler start to the work week ahead. soak in the 80s today. >> thank you very much, rob. police are trying to find the owners of a warehouse in downtown oakland which caught fire. we reported it to you earlier yesterday. what was inside surprised firefighters. it was an illegal marijuana operation. the fire was reported about 4:00 yesterday morning at a warehouse on broadway near 30th street. flames shot about 20 feet into
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the air, and it took fire crews several hours to get the flames under control. once they did at the back of the warehouse, they found about 200 pot plants, a large filtering system and electrical system altered to support that grow operation. >> blew my mind. i just had no idea. quiet tenants, nice people, older couple people that used the place as a restaurant warehouse. that's the only thing i had ever seen. >> police are waiting to execute search warrants to remove the plants and oer possible evidence. fire officials say the fire caused about a half million in damage. they made a gruesome discovery, found the body of a man in his 50s. no foul play is suspected in his death. police say volunteers found it yesterday morning as they were cleaning the gu add lup ariver in san jose. a mother pushed to have a
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post office named after her son who was killed in iraq. he died eight years ago. his mother, karen meredith, wants the downtown post office on hope street to bear his name. at a meeting tuesday, city council is set to support a resin support of that proposal. this year for the first time since lawmakers approved a day honoring harvey milk, it falls on a school day. now a conservative group is urging parents to keep their children home on tuesday. the group save california is running tv and radio ads, warning parents anyone with information on the murder withholding that would be i immoral. we're back in 30 minutes. ♪ ♪ [ transforming sounds ]
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[ male announcer ] transformers. the ride. ride it at universal studios hollywood. thank you! we're back on a sunday morning, may 20th, 2012. mother nature beyond cooperating with us this morning. we're going to have some very, very beautiful weather, and we're so appreciative of that. our thanks to the great folks spending part of their weekend with us outside on the plaza. i'm jenna wolfe alongside lester holt. still to come this half hour, we're talking about dog bounty hunter. >> he has in his career rounded up a huge number of fugitives, 6,000 during his career. he's made a lot of enemies, of course, along the way. well, in recent days, he and his family have received graphic death threats. dog and his wife, beth, are here. they're going to join us shortly for an exclusive interview to talk about what's going on. and then we're going to talk
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about a little bit of a touchy subject. should you be friends with your boss? there's this overlap between your work life and your personal life, and sometimes it can be a little tricky when the two overlap. so, we're going to discuss that coming up as well. >> all right, so awkward situation at times. sometimes beneficial, though. plus, this season's "celebrity apprentice" down to a couple of guys. the finalists clay aiken and arsenio hall, they're vying for $250,000 for their respective charities. the finale is live tonight. we'll ask each of them why he should be crowned this year's winner. don't let them fool you. they're actually buddies, which makes it all the more interesting. >> that's the best kind of competition to have, when you're good friends with somebody. so we'll talk about that. but first, we want to get another check of the weather with chris warren. and it is a nice day here in new york city for a birthday. happy birthday! where are you from? >> connecticut. >> are you having a good time in new york? >> oh, yeah. >> yeah? all your friends? >> yeah. >> all right, well, enjoy the beautiful day today.
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>> thank you! >> cannot say it's going to be beautiful everywhere. there's still going to be a lot of nice weather across the country, but we are dealing with tropical storm alberto. and you can see it right there. it formed yesterday, and it is just kind of hanging out, spinning there off the south carolina coast. it's going to stay there for another day before it slowly moves off to the northeast. here's a look at a system that's moving through the middle part of the country. could trigger some storms today. some of them could be severe from texas all the way up into the great lakes. and there's even a risk for some strong storms moving through chicago. that's going to bring a temporary end to the beautiful weather you' around the bay area, we manage one more nice day inland. a sea breeze throws low clouds our way as we get close to watching the eclipse starting after 5:00, peaking 6:30. 85% coverage of the sun. notice speaking of coverage, we have low clouds coming back to the coast, hinting at cooler
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changes ahead. inland, livermore, mid to upper 80s. 67z and 70s in the rest of the bay area, trending cooler and windy to start the new week. and remember, you can always get your weather 24 hours a day on weather.com. jenna? >> all right, chris, thank you very much. he's made a name for himself chasing fugitives on his reality tv show "dog the bounty hunter." duane "dog" chapman has chased after thousands of criminals over his 30-year career, but now he says someone's targeting him and his family. since april 30th, they've received several threatening e-mails, like this one -- "you are next on my list and are the bane of society. i will deliver you to god." two days later, another one came in -- "i'm going to murder you and your family." very graphic e-mails followed over the next couple of days, each more disturbing and more violent than the one prior. the fbi is now involved, and dwayne duane "dog" chapman and wife, beth, are finally speaking out. they're joining us this morning. hi, you guys.
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thank you very much for being here. >> thank you for having us. >> let me start with how you guys are holding up. this is obviously tough to receive something like this. >> well, we're holding up. i mean, we're, you know, in contact with the fbi, and whoever is sending this sounds like they're serious. we've gotten over the last nine years on television a few threats, and of course, everyone's not going to love you, but this has gone too far to threaten our daughters and beth. and you know, i don't care, go ahead and threaten me or whatever, you know, let's meet at noon. but i don't like when someone threatens my little girls and beth. and it's a coward behind, you know, something, so the fbi's after him. >> beth, what was your immediate reaction? i'm sure you've known from dog that e-mails have come in, but to see something like this that's actually targeting you and your children. >> yeah, you know, over a 30-year career, you know, i've seen a lot of threatening messages and things that, you know, are disturbing, but this really sent a chill down my spine when i saw it. and then as they started to come in more frequently, and the way
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that they're written, this isn't just some hater. this isn't just some guy that, you know, wants to mess with you on the internet. this is definitely somebody who is giving you, you know, a warning that they are coming for you and you should be worried about it. >> you have three daughters. are you keeping them completely in the loop with what's happening and what's come in? are they -- >> yes. >> they're fully prepared. >> yes. >> and they have protection, to my understanding? >> correct. >> we've increased our house staff, we've increased security. you know, we have a security system on our house. we're just giving them round-the-clock people that are there with them, watching them. and you know, we're just waiting for the fbi to do what they do best. >> how are they maintaining a normal lifestyle with this happening right now? >> well, they're not. i mean, my 13-year-old daughter was, like, you know, dissecting the message, and dad, bane, what is that word from? that's not a word people use. and i mean, my 19-year-old daughter's like, you know, dad, i'll watch it baby lyssa's like
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what are they talking about? she's got kids. this is not fun and games. this is very serious. it's a felony. it's no different than i sitting down at a typewriter and, you know, writing a threatening letter to kill someone and -- >> putting a stamp on it and mailing it. it's illegal. >> exactly, so people have to realize, the internet is very, you know -- >> open. >> knowledge is abounding across the world today. so you can't -- you cannot e-mail someone those kind of threats, just like you can't mail them a letter like that. >> this has been so threatening to you. in fact, you've contacted the fbi. where is everything in the investigation right now? >> well, the fbi -- can i say this? >> no. >> the fbi doesn't contact -- you know, number one, we didn't contact them, our attorneys did. but the fbi don't share information until after they say you have the right to remain silent, you know -- >> what they did share with us is that it is a viable threat and that it isn't just something that, you know, they would sweep under the carpet. they're taking action on it. and you know, hopefully, they're going to be able to track down who that person is, because you know, the alternative is for us
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to be, you know, armed and ready. and you know, we do this for a living, so we know how to take measures to protect ourselves. but you know, obviously, the make my day law doesn't work in hawaii, so -- >> now, are you still receiving these e-mails since the first couple came in? >> yes. >> are they still coming in? they are. they are. >> yes. >> and i know your older daughter's trained to protect yourself. she works with you. >> right. >> are the other daughters as well? >> well, not really. i mean, cecily went on one show with us when she turned 18 and she's like, dad, i'm going back to the t-shirt store. thank you, but no thanks, and e she's in college. the other is in an all girls catholic school. she's 13 and she's totally freaked out. so it's taking a toll on the daughters, you know. leave my kids out of it. if you want to, you know, skin on skin, that's fine, but you don't bring the wives and the daughters in on stuff like this. >> and do you have any idea at all who might be targeting you and why? could it be related to
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something, a case or something you may have been working on? >> somebody -- in one of the e-mails, he references, or they reference, you know, that they have a very nasty vendetta against duane, and they call him by his name, duane. so you know, there's not many people who call him by his name, hardly anybody. so you know, it is definitely somebody that has a history with us or somebody that has a past with us, and it's definitely somebody that, you know, is brazen enough to, you know, announce themselves first. but this day in age with the internet, you know, people have gotten very bold and ballsy behind that computer screen. >> sure. >> you know, and they're able to say things. but we're coming out full force. we're going to pursue them, we're going to aggressively go after them. you know, when they are found, we're going to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, because just because we're celebrities and we've opened our home life up to the world does not mean we've opened our gate for you to come in and do whatever it is that you want to do. >> well, this is very clearly a
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terrifying time for both of you and for your children, duane and beth. duane. dog. sorry, i won't call you by your first name. intimidated me a little bit. thank you very much for coming in and for sharing your story with us. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> all the best to you. we'll take a break and be back after this [ female announcer ] with depression, simple pleasures can simply hurt. the sadness, anxiety, the loss of interest. the aches and pains and fatigue. depression hurts. cymbalta can help with many symptoms of depression. tell your doctor right away if your depression worsens, you have unusual changes in behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not approved for children under 18. people taking maois or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes.
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>> friends trust one another. and i think that it's a good thing if i can trust my boss and my boss can trust me. >> it's the relationship in and of itself. it's not lending to friendship. respect, yes, friendship, no. >> jack, i found a therapist and i've made some big breakthrough! i know you don't know what this means, but i'm seeing -- >> i know it means this conversation is disgusting. >> it's a friendship that kind of comes to me sharing my personal self. >> you shouldn't talk about co-workers, because that's where it gets messy. >> if you go out and party too hard, if something happens that night, the next day you're going to have a hard day of work. >> you want a promotion, you've got to earn it. >> people looking at you
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thinking, oh, well, maybe there's special treatment, or you know, people even expecting you to get things accomplished because you know the boss. >> if things go wrong, then you not only have a bad work relationship, but possibly a messed up friendship. >> now, according to one survey, 61% of workers think of their boss as their friend. only 23% enjoy spending time with their bosses outside of work. >> so, joining us now to talk about the potential benefits and pitfalls of becoming friends with someone who, let's face it, could actually fire you, are rod kurtz, executive editor of "the huffington post" and "today" contributor gail saltz. >> we're not here to fire anyone. >> right off the bat, befriending your boss, good thing or bad thing? rob, we'll start with you. >> we were talking about this earlier. it's very tricky. i think the key word is friendly. the reality is, we're spending more time at the office now than we do with our own family, so it's silly to go in with
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blinders and sit in the corner and not interact with anyone. you want to get along with the people you work with, especially for the people you work for, but you have to maintain that professionalism. >> but gail, isn't there a difference, a different emotional connection between two friends, versus a boss being the friend? >> absolutely, and that's the problem. essentially, the boss has the power. and so, the employee has what we call transference in my field. you transfer feelings on to your boss that don't necessarily have to do with them. they're an authority figure, so you often transfer parental feelings, which makes you in a very vulnerable position. you're going to share things and give over things that you really shouldn't, necessarily. you end up oversharing, overdepending, overtrusting that this person is looking out for your goodwill in a way perhaps a parent would, but they're not. they're your boss. >> where do you draw the line with socializing with your boss? movies, weekends in the hamptons?
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>> no! >> the last one, we agree on that, yeah. no, i think that, i've had some great bosses over the years. it's interesting, i'm a boss myself now. and i think the relationships i get back are sort of mentorships. so i do think it's okay to go out for coffee or lunch. a lot of times, a good boss takes the team out for drinks, that kind of thing. good rule of thumb, always stay one drink behind the boss. >> i would go further, i would say don't drink much with the boss. >> right. >> because that's where it becomes breaches of boundaries that are a problem. you get disinhibited and say stuff and then you expect stuff out of the relationship and you get hurt. >> here's where it gets weird, when the boss and the employee are the opposite sex. do all those rules change when that situation presents itself? >> yes, even more so. now look, again, office friendships are going to happen, office romances are going to happen, but you need to have your eyes open, and generally speaking, an employee-boss romance is a bad idea. so, don't flirt if you're going to have that -- >> i think it gets back to, also, people gossip. and even if there's absolutely nothing going on, if you're going out with the boss to lunch
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every day, your co-workers are going to talk and it's going to kind of poison the pool among your fellow co-workers. they'll think you're kissing up, that kind of thing. you want to maintain some degree of separation there. >> basically the pain when you think someone's your friend and they have to fire you. >> absolutely. >> i'm going to go defriend my boss right now! rod kurtz and gail saltz, thank you so much. great insight. up next, tonight's "celebrity apprentice" finale down to the final two. clay aiken andrsenio arsen halll tell us how they plan to avoid being fired. especially in this economy. but with three kids, being home more really helped. man: so we went to fidelity. we talked about where we were and what we could do. we changed our plan and did something about our economy. now we know where to go for help if things change again. call or come in today to take control of your personal economy. get free one-on-one help from america's retirement leader.
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execute a charity event and work together to make sure it goes off without a hitch. >> normally, they're frenemies or more friends than enemies, but they're actually good friends. arsenio hall and clay aiken, you are good friends, right? >> yes, we are good friends. >> bffs, beautiful. >> was that an unlikely friendship when the show started? did you just glom on to each other? >> you look at us and assume we would be friends right away. >> just like us. >> we were in the corner kind of being reclusive and everybody else was so open, they were social butterflies, and we realized we had a lot in common as far as personalities in this business. >> but this makes it difficult now because you are friends. >> oh, yes. >> it does make it difficult, but it also -- we've talked about, i think it challenges us both to do better, because i will do my task and i'll be thinking, oh, i mean, i want to beat arsenio, but i kind of want to impress him and i'm sure he wants to impress me. >> this is the best scenario. i mean, there was a point where i thought it would be me and penn and i was happy because it would be god versus no god. but god versus god, and i hope
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it's a tie. >> let me ask you a question. you've seen the show, i'm sure, but at times in seasons past, how does it relate into actually doing the show? is it as hard as it looks to watch? i mean, some of these tasks are pretty challenging. >> it's pretty tough. i mean, they're tough at first because you really have no idea. it's outside of your wheelhouse. but also, the scheduling is grueling. it's tough. >> people don't know how -- i mean, they'll tell us, we want you to raise money, do a show, create a psa and have a party. and then they'll give you 24 hours to do this. >> right, right, right. >> what have you learned about yourself during this? >> i think i've learned -- i've always figured i was pretty adaptable, but i think i've learned that i am -- both of us have been really pretty adaptable, and i think that's kind of part of the success on the show, learning to adapt to different situations and different people, and different people is probably the toughest part of this. >> clay, you've played the role of runner-up already on "american idol." >> thanks for reminding me. >> well, you can blame my notes. my notes remembered it. i can imagine you don't want to do this again. >> no, thank you.
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no, thank you. >> do you keep that in the back of your mind? >> of course. there's not much you can do about it at the end of the day, but it's a lot of deja vu involved here. a good friend up against a good friend, who's also from alabama. >> by the way, as a child, i was known as little ruben for no reason. skinny ruben. >> we should remind folks that while "the celebrity apprentice" is personal, it's all about raising money for your charity. $250,000 goes to your charity. yours is the? >> magic johnson foundation and i've been on the ground floor of it since magic made his announcement back in the day. and his organization is very special because he created it. >> i was a special ed teacher before i did "idol," and we include kids in the national inclusion project. [ cheers and applause ] a lot of special ed students. and we include kids with disabilities into programs like summer camps and after-school programs. >> is donald trump really as serious as he seems to be?
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>> he's intimidating. i won't say scary because he's very personal, but he's intimidating because you have respect for him. he's the king of new york and here we are in his city. >> well, clay aiken and arsenio hall, we thank you so much. we also wish you the very best of luck. >> who do you wish the very best of luck to? him or me? >> i could answer that, but lester always gets the last word on this show. >> we're out of time! the final "celebrity apprentice" tonight at 9:00/8:00 central here on nbc. we'll be back in a moment after these messages. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker...
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♪ we're celebrating a special milestone here at nbc news this week, 20 years of "dateline." from breaking news to hidden camera investigations and
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extraordinary interviews, it's been two decades of memorable stories. here's a look at some of the show's dramatic highlights. >> just like that. >> all right. >> i've never been caught in a sting operation. >> well, you're about to be. >> why are you running from me? >> he bolted out the back door. >> i'd like to talk to you. >> wow. >> i watch your shows. i'm a big fan, though. >> are you a psychic? >> yes, i am. >> if you were a psychic, you would know that she is an employee of nbc news and is carrying a camera. >> okay. >> within the first five minutes of the interview, there appeared to be three personality changes. >> what year did you -- >> i think i should stop here because not only are you reacting to it, but it seems like you're feeling intimidated. you're not talking to bill, you're talking to sam.
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that's what i think. >> i'm not playing your con. it's a con. >> what if it isn't, what are you doing? >> if it isn't a con, it's fascinating. >> what made you think you could actually kill your wife and get away with it? >> never. what you're saying now is basically insulting me. no, never happened. >> you killed a couple of people in a horrible way. you can't even bring yourself to say it, can you? >> say you're sorry, but i mean, you know that it happened, but -- >> it isn't just happen, you did it. >> yeah. >> that's what it is. >> i think we both know. >> i don't know that they are. >> well, andrew, there's something you need to know. >> what? chris hansen? >> yes. >> hands up! >> i think that is a very good piece of investigative journalism, frankly.
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>> i hope you'll join me as i host "dateline's" 20th anniversary special tuesday at 10:00/9:00 central here on nbc. >> looks good. we leave you this morning with "today's life illustrated," our weekly glimpse at life through your camera lens. this morning, with summer just around the corner, you take us on your past travels around the world, wetting our appetite for new ones. >> and next week, we're observing memorial day, so please send us your most patriotic snapshots. >> burgers and dogs included. summit them on our website, or on facebook and twitter. >> that's it for today. have a nice weekend and a wonderful day and thanks for watching. ♪
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